The White House has released President Trump’s 20-point plan for Gaza moments before Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump hold a joint press conference.
Although I admit I really know really nothing about war and politics and how to end this genocide, it seemed somewhat promising right up until DT would be head of a "board of peace".... That sounds like a total disaster.
Numbers 9 and 10 are doomed to failure. No “Board of Peace” will have any credibility if named for and led by a man currently sending troops into U.S. cities in full violation of the law.
Oh, and who “lost” 1200 migrants formerly held at Alligator Auschwitz.
And who keeps feeding people in containment inedible food.
Meanwhile, can anyone name these modern miracle cities in the Middle East?
Plus, all this talk of Hamas is eyeroll-worthy since they’ve been calling anyone they want “Hamas” for decades with as much proof as was ever provided re those blown-up Venezuelan boats carrying “narco terrorists.”
The Palestinian Authority already gave their support. Also if it's a genocide shouldn't you be for a cease-fire and evacuation of Israeli forces from Gaza?
IT IS A GENOCIDE!! Anyone who tries to say that it is not is either a psychopath or pro-Zionist propagandist.
For that reason any ceasefire needs to be legitimate, real and have actual consequences for the Genocider if they violate this. For resistance forces to give up their weapons and surrender all Israeli POWs (this is what they are, it's Israel that has hostages) all on the promise of Israel is very dangerous as it opens Gaza (and all of Palestine) up to Israeli Armageddon levels of violence against civilians. This has been proven previously most notably by the Sabra & Shatila Massacres.
Also the Israeli forces aren't evacuating. They are withdrawing because Israeli forces are choosing to be there and are not trapped or under siege.
I'm really confused, surely an actual genocide is terrible enough that it's worth an immediate ceasefire? Like if you'll only accept a cease-fire that fits your definition of legitimate, aren't you sacrificing all those dead Palestinians for political reasons?
You don't trust Israel? Israel certainly doesn't trust Hamas. That's why this is being pushed by trump and will involve an international group of countries both Arab and European. At some point it sounds like you only want the genocide to end if Hamas is victorious. And that just isn't going to happen.
Btw I'm curious what you think happened with Sabra and Shatila. Did you think Israel perpetrated the massacre?
Israeli IDF has documented that they knew that Lebanese forces allied with Israel were going to do some kind of attack imminently on Palestinian civilians in Sabra & Shatila refugee camps. They did nothing and let it happen.
They saw it starting and knew that it was required as occupying military power to protect civilians. They did nothing and let it happen.
They saw and heard people screaming for help and knew they were being massacred. They did nothing and let it happen.
Israel may not have been pulling the trigger and swinging the machete but it was allied with those who did, let it happen and refused to stop it and as occupying military power was responsible for stopping it therefore: YES ISRAEL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT HAPPENING!
A ceasefire that only lasts as long as it takes to get POWs back isn't a real ceasefire. This is exactly what Netanyahu has consistently said would be done. Stopping the Genocide is it ending not just pausing for a few days and then ramping back up to two or three times as worse.
Israel cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement it makes, hell no one even trusts Israel to tell the truth about its own attacks when there is evidence that they murdered. Israel solely violated the previous ceasefire agreement that would have already had all Israelis in Gaza released, all IDF pulled out of Gaza and rebuilding well under way. Instead they refused to abide by agreement they made then demanded all POWs released and unconditional surrender and imposed aid blockade which has caused the dire famine conditions now engulfing everyone in Gaza Strip (Palestinians and Israelis).
As for Sabra & Shatila Israeli forces stood by and watched it all happen and could have stopped it at any moment. Not too mention they promised to leave and not re-invavde Lebanon if PLO left, Israel promised that there would be no reprisals against Palestinian civilians and instead they let it happen right in front of them. Numerous IDF personnel who were there have given witness testimony and that they were ordered not stop it, not to help and let it happen.
On the table is everything the pro-palestinian side has claimed to want: Immediate ceasefire, release of hundreds of prisoners, zero restrictions on aid. If the situation is actually a famine and a genocide they should be embracing this immediately!
Suddenly you're claiming Israel can't be trusted with any deal?! Even one involving an international force including European and Arab states?!
So what exactly will let you stop this genocide exactly? Again it really seems like you're waiting for a total Hamas victory before ending the suffering of the people in Gaza.
What this "Peace Plan" leaves out from what Allied Palestinian Resistance Forces:
1. There's no Palestinian self determination, no foreign individuals or nations influencing or ruling over Government in Gaza Strip and democratic elections in near future.
2. Complete withdrawal and end of occupation by Israeli forces on Gaza. Especially from so called Philladelphi Corridor and control over Rafah Crossing, Yes this means COGAT doesn't control Rafah Crossing with Egypt. If Israel says it needs to maintain a security buffer zone they should do it on their own land and not on land inside the Gaza Strip. To not do this means that the occupation of Gaza Strip has not ended.
3. Release of the prisoners is drastically lower than previous exchanges and not for the "long sentence prisoners" which includes those that have sentences that are over 80 years long but are not classified by Israeli Courts as being life sentences. This will mean that the most wanted prisoners for release will not be released.
Nothing about the release of Palestinians imprisoned without charge or trial from whole of Palestine, Yes this includes West Bank and East Jerusalem as these are part of State of Palestine.
4. There's nothing in Trump Peace Plan that states who will be part of the proposed ISF. Not one word that it would have people from European countries or Middle Eastern countries. It only suggests that pre-vetted Police be trained and advised by experienced Egyptian and Jordanian Police.
5. Palestinian resistance forces would only ever disarm when there was a Palestinian States national armed forces for the defence of the State of Palestine.
Any talk by anyone of aid being unrestricted and dispersed by UN and Red Crescent as being anything other than the bare minimum is clearly not human and are complete psychopaths. They are also knowingly lying about why it was stopped to begin with and therefore cannot be trusted. This being clearly exhibited by the widely known facts from several months ago that Israel's own intelligence services and military intelligence have stated that there never was any evidence that UNRWA or other aid agencies had been infiltrated by Islamic Resistance Movement, had any employees who took part in Oct 7 attacks or that aid was being diverted or stolen to be sold by "Hamas"
Also aid not being blockaded or having ridiculous arbitrary restrictions of what is and is not acceptable or aid amounts being restricted by flawed calorie counting methods all of which Israel did prior to October 7th.
Finally the fact that from the outset you can't understand why shows that you have emotional deficiencies, that of not being born with stems from indoctrination from early childhood into a ethnosupremicist ideology, which means you cannot understand instead of just not wanting to understand. For this reason further discourse with you is unproductive prior to you receiving professional help to overcome your emotional deficiencies.
This plan was basically written by Netanyahu and Trump with the expectation that Hamas would reject it, in order to then blame Hamas when Israel continues its acts of genocide.
Trump is only interested in the potential of a massive prime beach oriented real estate development project. Everything else is smoke and mirrors to give him what he wants.
I think it is truly inappropriate, unethical, and incomprehensible. A very generic plan that does not guarantee any real future peace or the decision-making autonomy of the state of Palestine.
∆∆∆ CLEARLY THIS IS A TROLL AND PROPAGANDIST FOR ISRAEL WHO REPEATS SAME TIRED DEBUNKED PROPAGANDA - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN DEBUNKED BY THEIR OWN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES THE SHIN-BET!
I'd love to hear what's been debunked about UNIFIL. Were they actually secretly super effective at stopping Hezbollah from amassing on the border? Lmfao
I'm 70 years and I've never met someone who is antisemitic rather the contrary. It is the political platform from which right wing racist Zionists operate that people detest. Nothing to do with true Judaism. Thank you for your informative comment. Anything proposed by DJT and the current administration causes suspicion. DJT and Netanyahu couldn't care less about Palestinian anything or this relentless cruelty would not have continued for two years as if the preceding decades weren't enough. Billions more to be made, by the billionaires in the Gaza real estate rebuild era; but allowing people Human Rights and Social Justice diminishes the need for resistance groups such as the IRA and Hamas etc.
Palestinian architects, Gaza decision makers for all major structural plans, Palestinians determining the type of economic structure they want (not primarily benefiting foreign investors), Israel pays reparations, no surveillance state, any soldiers remaining must be retrained for peace--not shoot-first, no more checkpoints in the West Bank, move settlements back so free access to all cultural and agricultural land returned to Palestinians, Israel pays reparations for West Bank homes and groves torn down or stolen.
I can think of more. Let me be on the council to be the white people whisperer!
I forgot one of the most important parts: free medical, dental, mental health (both services and training) for everyone and massive disability services
Although I admit I really know really nothing about war and politics and how to end this genocide, it seemed somewhat promising right up until DT would be head of a "board of peace".... That sounds like a total disaster.
All about making more billions.
Holy hell Trump wants to be king of Gaza
Numbers 9 and 10 are doomed to failure. No “Board of Peace” will have any credibility if named for and led by a man currently sending troops into U.S. cities in full violation of the law.
Oh, and who “lost” 1200 migrants formerly held at Alligator Auschwitz.
And who keeps feeding people in containment inedible food.
Meanwhile, can anyone name these modern miracle cities in the Middle East?
Plus, all this talk of Hamas is eyeroll-worthy since they’ve been calling anyone they want “Hamas” for decades with as much proof as was ever provided re those blown-up Venezuelan boats carrying “narco terrorists.”
Sooooo removing illegal Israeli settlements is..point 21?
Exactly!
STOP. CALLING. GENOCIDE. WAR. FULL FUCKING STOP.
where in this article did Yashar name this conflict in any terms?
If it's a genocide that make accepting this ceasefire even more urgent and a no-brainer?
Awful.
Probably the first genocide (if it’s successful, it won't be the last) brokered based on profit.
No Palestinian will or leader is involved, and zero consequences (except for the profitable real estate of “reconstruction”).
The Palestinian Authority already gave their support. Also if it's a genocide shouldn't you be for a cease-fire and evacuation of Israeli forces from Gaza?
IT IS A GENOCIDE!! Anyone who tries to say that it is not is either a psychopath or pro-Zionist propagandist.
For that reason any ceasefire needs to be legitimate, real and have actual consequences for the Genocider if they violate this. For resistance forces to give up their weapons and surrender all Israeli POWs (this is what they are, it's Israel that has hostages) all on the promise of Israel is very dangerous as it opens Gaza (and all of Palestine) up to Israeli Armageddon levels of violence against civilians. This has been proven previously most notably by the Sabra & Shatila Massacres.
Also the Israeli forces aren't evacuating. They are withdrawing because Israeli forces are choosing to be there and are not trapped or under siege.
I'm really confused, surely an actual genocide is terrible enough that it's worth an immediate ceasefire? Like if you'll only accept a cease-fire that fits your definition of legitimate, aren't you sacrificing all those dead Palestinians for political reasons?
You don't trust Israel? Israel certainly doesn't trust Hamas. That's why this is being pushed by trump and will involve an international group of countries both Arab and European. At some point it sounds like you only want the genocide to end if Hamas is victorious. And that just isn't going to happen.
Btw I'm curious what you think happened with Sabra and Shatila. Did you think Israel perpetrated the massacre?
Israeli IDF has documented that they knew that Lebanese forces allied with Israel were going to do some kind of attack imminently on Palestinian civilians in Sabra & Shatila refugee camps. They did nothing and let it happen.
They saw it starting and knew that it was required as occupying military power to protect civilians. They did nothing and let it happen.
They saw and heard people screaming for help and knew they were being massacred. They did nothing and let it happen.
Israel may not have been pulling the trigger and swinging the machete but it was allied with those who did, let it happen and refused to stop it and as occupying military power was responsible for stopping it therefore: YES ISRAEL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT HAPPENING!
A ceasefire that only lasts as long as it takes to get POWs back isn't a real ceasefire. This is exactly what Netanyahu has consistently said would be done. Stopping the Genocide is it ending not just pausing for a few days and then ramping back up to two or three times as worse.
Israel cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement it makes, hell no one even trusts Israel to tell the truth about its own attacks when there is evidence that they murdered. Israel solely violated the previous ceasefire agreement that would have already had all Israelis in Gaza released, all IDF pulled out of Gaza and rebuilding well under way. Instead they refused to abide by agreement they made then demanded all POWs released and unconditional surrender and imposed aid blockade which has caused the dire famine conditions now engulfing everyone in Gaza Strip (Palestinians and Israelis).
As for Sabra & Shatila Israeli forces stood by and watched it all happen and could have stopped it at any moment. Not too mention they promised to leave and not re-invavde Lebanon if PLO left, Israel promised that there would be no reprisals against Palestinian civilians and instead they let it happen right in front of them. Numerous IDF personnel who were there have given witness testimony and that they were ordered not stop it, not to help and let it happen.
On the table is everything the pro-palestinian side has claimed to want: Immediate ceasefire, release of hundreds of prisoners, zero restrictions on aid. If the situation is actually a famine and a genocide they should be embracing this immediately!
Suddenly you're claiming Israel can't be trusted with any deal?! Even one involving an international force including European and Arab states?!
So what exactly will let you stop this genocide exactly? Again it really seems like you're waiting for a total Hamas victory before ending the suffering of the people in Gaza.
What this "Peace Plan" leaves out from what Allied Palestinian Resistance Forces:
1. There's no Palestinian self determination, no foreign individuals or nations influencing or ruling over Government in Gaza Strip and democratic elections in near future.
2. Complete withdrawal and end of occupation by Israeli forces on Gaza. Especially from so called Philladelphi Corridor and control over Rafah Crossing, Yes this means COGAT doesn't control Rafah Crossing with Egypt. If Israel says it needs to maintain a security buffer zone they should do it on their own land and not on land inside the Gaza Strip. To not do this means that the occupation of Gaza Strip has not ended.
3. Release of the prisoners is drastically lower than previous exchanges and not for the "long sentence prisoners" which includes those that have sentences that are over 80 years long but are not classified by Israeli Courts as being life sentences. This will mean that the most wanted prisoners for release will not be released.
Nothing about the release of Palestinians imprisoned without charge or trial from whole of Palestine, Yes this includes West Bank and East Jerusalem as these are part of State of Palestine.
4. There's nothing in Trump Peace Plan that states who will be part of the proposed ISF. Not one word that it would have people from European countries or Middle Eastern countries. It only suggests that pre-vetted Police be trained and advised by experienced Egyptian and Jordanian Police.
5. Palestinian resistance forces would only ever disarm when there was a Palestinian States national armed forces for the defence of the State of Palestine.
Any talk by anyone of aid being unrestricted and dispersed by UN and Red Crescent as being anything other than the bare minimum is clearly not human and are complete psychopaths. They are also knowingly lying about why it was stopped to begin with and therefore cannot be trusted. This being clearly exhibited by the widely known facts from several months ago that Israel's own intelligence services and military intelligence have stated that there never was any evidence that UNRWA or other aid agencies had been infiltrated by Islamic Resistance Movement, had any employees who took part in Oct 7 attacks or that aid was being diverted or stolen to be sold by "Hamas"
Also aid not being blockaded or having ridiculous arbitrary restrictions of what is and is not acceptable or aid amounts being restricted by flawed calorie counting methods all of which Israel did prior to October 7th.
Finally the fact that from the outset you can't understand why shows that you have emotional deficiencies, that of not being born with stems from indoctrination from early childhood into a ethnosupremicist ideology, which means you cannot understand instead of just not wanting to understand. For this reason further discourse with you is unproductive prior to you receiving professional help to overcome your emotional deficiencies.
No. Only if I ignored history, law, and the Palestinian people would I.
This plan was basically written by Netanyahu and Trump with the expectation that Hamas would reject it, in order to then blame Hamas when Israel continues its acts of genocide.
This “Peace Plan” comes into effect once every Palestinian has been murdered.
The National Socialists of Germany once called it the final solution.
Trump is only interested in the potential of a massive prime beach oriented real estate development project. Everything else is smoke and mirrors to give him what he wants.
Hey They’re Always Coming Out With A New Big Beautiful Plan For GAZA.
They Should Have Never Been In There To Begin With.
I think it is truly inappropriate, unethical, and incomprehensible. A very generic plan that does not guarantee any real future peace or the decision-making autonomy of the state of Palestine.
i see no reason why this wouldn't be a total utter disaster
Bop the board of Peace on the head. No need to reinvent the wheel. The UN exists and it works. Thankfully, nothing like a board of peace would work.
Lol define the UN "working". Did the UNIFIL forces do their job? Did the UNWRA members who took part in Oct 7 do their job?
∆∆∆ CLEARLY THIS IS A TROLL AND PROPAGANDIST FOR ISRAEL WHO REPEATS SAME TIRED DEBUNKED PROPAGANDA - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN DEBUNKED BY THEIR OWN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES THE SHIN-BET!
I'd love to hear what's been debunked about UNIFIL. Were they actually secretly super effective at stopping Hezbollah from amassing on the border? Lmfao
I'm 70 years and I've never met someone who is antisemitic rather the contrary. It is the political platform from which right wing racist Zionists operate that people detest. Nothing to do with true Judaism. Thank you for your informative comment. Anything proposed by DJT and the current administration causes suspicion. DJT and Netanyahu couldn't care less about Palestinian anything or this relentless cruelty would not have continued for two years as if the preceding decades weren't enough. Billions more to be made, by the billionaires in the Gaza real estate rebuild era; but allowing people Human Rights and Social Justice diminishes the need for resistance groups such as the IRA and Hamas etc.
Palestinian architects, Gaza decision makers for all major structural plans, Palestinians determining the type of economic structure they want (not primarily benefiting foreign investors), Israel pays reparations, no surveillance state, any soldiers remaining must be retrained for peace--not shoot-first, no more checkpoints in the West Bank, move settlements back so free access to all cultural and agricultural land returned to Palestinians, Israel pays reparations for West Bank homes and groves torn down or stolen.
I can think of more. Let me be on the council to be the white people whisperer!
I forgot one of the most important parts: free medical, dental, mental health (both services and training) for everyone and massive disability services
Massive disability services. Approximately 10 children daily lose one or both lower limbs and this statistic doesn't include hands and/or arms.
A board?? Like is there going to be a complete control of the area like ij afghanistan for decades to come 🙄