I understand why you have that perception. I wonder if you’ve ever experienced or directly witnessed emotional abuse. I sincerely hope you haven’t. I hope you never do.
I have. I know exactly what it looks and feels like to want and try to leave but to have an invisible tether that keeps you from walking away. To stay in a cage with an op…
I understand why you have that perception. I wonder if you’ve ever experienced or directly witnessed emotional abuse. I sincerely hope you haven’t. I hope you never do.
I have. I know exactly what it looks and feels like to want and try to leave but to have an invisible tether that keeps you from walking away. To stay in a cage with an open door. To know that acting may result in harm to yourself or another because it has in the past.
She’s gotten up to leave but she doesn’t leave. She keeps stepping away but coming back. She keeps declaring she wants to go but it’s obvious she feels like she needs his permission so she can leave safely. From her body language, I confidently infer that the “i’m gonna fuck you up” threat is not a new act of terror.
And you know what, I believe her. But I want you to be right. I hope she wasn’t abused. God knows that is trauma that sticks.
There is not enough information for a proper judgement to be made. The proficient manipulator is the one that does it where even while watching it few can catch it. I do not know either party. Attempting to extrapolate the whole story is difficult from this position.
To me the Landau bully comment if true is what makes me want to side with his wife. Landau is someone that has had to deal with bullies a lot, often using humor to defend himself from them.
"The proficient manipulator is the one that does it where even while watching it few can catch it."
2 things:
1 - Even someone who has been a manipulator their entire lives can suck at it.
2 - If you look at the comments in this very post, you will see many people who cannot catch it.
And yeah, Landau is a stand up individual and I've seen him talk about it very sincerely. He talked about his own shortcomings in the same conversation so he didn't just pin blame on Crowder. In fact, he was overly generous to Crowder given all of the ways he was mistreated by him even on camera.
I understand why you have that perception. I wonder if you’ve ever experienced or directly witnessed emotional abuse. I sincerely hope you haven’t. I hope you never do.
I have. I know exactly what it looks and feels like to want and try to leave but to have an invisible tether that keeps you from walking away. To stay in a cage with an open door. To know that acting may result in harm to yourself or another because it has in the past.
She’s gotten up to leave but she doesn’t leave. She keeps stepping away but coming back. She keeps declaring she wants to go but it’s obvious she feels like she needs his permission so she can leave safely. From her body language, I confidently infer that the “i’m gonna fuck you up” threat is not a new act of terror.
And you know what, I believe her. But I want you to be right. I hope she wasn’t abused. God knows that is trauma that sticks.
There is not enough information for a proper judgement to be made. The proficient manipulator is the one that does it where even while watching it few can catch it. I do not know either party. Attempting to extrapolate the whole story is difficult from this position.
To me the Landau bully comment if true is what makes me want to side with his wife. Landau is someone that has had to deal with bullies a lot, often using humor to defend himself from them.
"The proficient manipulator is the one that does it where even while watching it few can catch it."
2 things:
1 - Even someone who has been a manipulator their entire lives can suck at it.
2 - If you look at the comments in this very post, you will see many people who cannot catch it.
And yeah, Landau is a stand up individual and I've seen him talk about it very sincerely. He talked about his own shortcomings in the same conversation so he didn't just pin blame on Crowder. In fact, he was overly generous to Crowder given all of the ways he was mistreated by him even on camera.