All you people should slow way down. One video doesn't provide clear context. When the word of God says we are all sinners in need of salvation what does that mean to you?
I went through a divorce where my ex was a victim narcist. Should would manipulate, then play the victim. At the time I didn't know how to deal with it and after ten ye…
All you people should slow way down. One video doesn't provide clear context. When the word of God says we are all sinners in need of salvation what does that mean to you?
I went through a divorce where my ex was a victim narcist. Should would manipulate, then play the victim. At the time I didn't know how to deal with it and after ten years of it, I responded in anger. The whole situation brought me to faith in Jesus Christ. My wife divorced me and took my children and I never heard my daughter's voice in 12 years. They live 20 minutes from me and I haven't seen my son since he was 3, he is now 15. There is much more to the story than 1 video. He claims to be a Christian and so did I, but I wasn't and at the time didn't know what it really meant to be a Christian. Being a Christian starts with faith in Jesus Christ and it continues with you daily death to yourself. Jesus said, "Deny yourself daily and take up your cross and follow me." That only comes through a real relationship with the Son of God. My wife hates me today and I could not love her more. That is the Life of Jesus Christ within me. That is the reason he came and died a sinner death on the cross and rose up again on the third day. So that he could life to whomever would come to him.
This whole incident shows they both need Jesus Christ and the life he offers.
Steven himself admitted that he screamed "I WILL FUCK YOU UP!" at her.
Your experience isn't his. He's an abuser, and people like you are always willing to look the other way because you don't want to admit someone you like is abusive.
No other context is needed. People don't treat the people they love and cherish like this, even when they're pissed off.
Nothing in the video suggests it's a one-off. She doesn't say, "What's going on? Why are you acting like this?" or anything else that would show his behavior is unusual. This is how he is. Good for her for getting out. Of course, now he claims publically he didn't want a divorce -- after getting a divorce attorney before she knew anything about it. Hypocite.
you're right one video doesn't provide context but what it does provide is a palling and you guys are saying it's not. In fact it's more likely that this is just the tip of the iceberg than that this is an anomaly. Especially because both of them knew the ring camera was there. You would think he has toned it down because of the chance that it would be recorded.
Exactly right, and the telltale sign of Hilary manipulating Steven in that very moment, with the intent of spinning him up, which EVERYONE missed because she is so damn good at it, is when she says "I love you" in a clinical tone several times when it was very clear that they weren't even acting as friends at that time and probably hadn't in a while. So she comes across looking like a loving wife and reasonable when the opposite was true. That Steven says "I don't love you" in that moment as a response is actually a level headed truthful statement. I remember when my ex was in the process of filing for divorce and blowing up my life for no reason other than she was a narcissistic, selfish, and jealous biatch (I have a daughter who she HATED) said to me in a text, "I will always love you" to which I replied, "Love? We aren't even friends! Never say that to me again, it is manipulative and I don't even believe it" No surprise that she never said it again and then tried to give me the full monty in the divorce by destroying my life. It didn't work, and I escaped a Succubus but she never tried to manipulate my emotions again, and THAT is what Hilary conveniently had recorded. Who says "I love you!" when they are in a huge argument with someone? Liars and manipulators, that's who!!
you would rather she get into a knockdown drag out fight with him that would make it better? I'm amazed that you are worrying about her having a clinical flat tone but you're not worried about Stevens tone.
this flat tone, called gray rock, is how you deal with narcissists, attempting to de-escalate, and she might actually love him still but she hurts too much due to his abuse to make it sound convincing. You're blaming her for wanting to leave. And Stephen's behavior only confirms that her wanting to leave is a rational response.
All you people should slow way down. One video doesn't provide clear context. When the word of God says we are all sinners in need of salvation what does that mean to you?
I went through a divorce where my ex was a victim narcist. Should would manipulate, then play the victim. At the time I didn't know how to deal with it and after ten years of it, I responded in anger. The whole situation brought me to faith in Jesus Christ. My wife divorced me and took my children and I never heard my daughter's voice in 12 years. They live 20 minutes from me and I haven't seen my son since he was 3, he is now 15. There is much more to the story than 1 video. He claims to be a Christian and so did I, but I wasn't and at the time didn't know what it really meant to be a Christian. Being a Christian starts with faith in Jesus Christ and it continues with you daily death to yourself. Jesus said, "Deny yourself daily and take up your cross and follow me." That only comes through a real relationship with the Son of God. My wife hates me today and I could not love her more. That is the Life of Jesus Christ within me. That is the reason he came and died a sinner death on the cross and rose up again on the third day. So that he could life to whomever would come to him.
This whole incident shows they both need Jesus Christ and the life he offers.
Steven himself admitted that he screamed "I WILL FUCK YOU UP!" at her.
Your experience isn't his. He's an abuser, and people like you are always willing to look the other way because you don't want to admit someone you like is abusive.
"Steven himself admitted"
Link?
No other context is needed. People don't treat the people they love and cherish like this, even when they're pissed off.
Nothing in the video suggests it's a one-off. She doesn't say, "What's going on? Why are you acting like this?" or anything else that would show his behavior is unusual. This is how he is. Good for her for getting out. Of course, now he claims publically he didn't want a divorce -- after getting a divorce attorney before she knew anything about it. Hypocite.
you're right one video doesn't provide context but what it does provide is a palling and you guys are saying it's not. In fact it's more likely that this is just the tip of the iceberg than that this is an anomaly. Especially because both of them knew the ring camera was there. You would think he has toned it down because of the chance that it would be recorded.
Crowder never claimed entrapment.
Exactly right, and the telltale sign of Hilary manipulating Steven in that very moment, with the intent of spinning him up, which EVERYONE missed because she is so damn good at it, is when she says "I love you" in a clinical tone several times when it was very clear that they weren't even acting as friends at that time and probably hadn't in a while. So she comes across looking like a loving wife and reasonable when the opposite was true. That Steven says "I don't love you" in that moment as a response is actually a level headed truthful statement. I remember when my ex was in the process of filing for divorce and blowing up my life for no reason other than she was a narcissistic, selfish, and jealous biatch (I have a daughter who she HATED) said to me in a text, "I will always love you" to which I replied, "Love? We aren't even friends! Never say that to me again, it is manipulative and I don't even believe it" No surprise that she never said it again and then tried to give me the full monty in the divorce by destroying my life. It didn't work, and I escaped a Succubus but she never tried to manipulate my emotions again, and THAT is what Hilary conveniently had recorded. Who says "I love you!" when they are in a huge argument with someone? Liars and manipulators, that's who!!
you would rather she get into a knockdown drag out fight with him that would make it better? I'm amazed that you are worrying about her having a clinical flat tone but you're not worried about Stevens tone.
this flat tone, called gray rock, is how you deal with narcissists, attempting to de-escalate, and she might actually love him still but she hurts too much due to his abuse to make it sound convincing. You're blaming her for wanting to leave. And Stephen's behavior only confirms that her wanting to leave is a rational response.
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