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CrowderisCrazy's avatar

Threatening to fuck someone up is a crime in pretty much every civilized country. The fact that he did that over her trying to go buy GROCERIES show's how unhinged he is. Also, the "odd talk about gloves" is another example of his extreme unreasonableness. The medication was potentially harmful to his unborn children, and instead of being a protective husband and administering it himself to their dog - he was berating her for not taking the risk on herself. Along with screaming at her for not walking their active dog while she was 8 months pregnant - something he also should have taken on as getting up off a chair is already difficult enough at that stage and she was pregnant with TWINS. He's insane and was being an awful and threatening partner to his wife during her most vulnerable time. That's sick and intolerable.

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Nobody Vill's avatar

Saying I'll fuck you up or other stupid mid argument comments is not a crime anywhere I know of.

I've said worse without meaning it literally.

I'm willing to believe he may be abusive. I'm just saying I won't accept it based on one 3 min clip with no context and the fact that I don't like his politics.

I like to force myself to be objective in these situations and not do what most people here are doing on either side: decide with their emotions not logic based on who's team they were on before.

Nothing you mentioned is abuse. It's being an asshole.

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Bowser's avatar

You are absolutely deranged if you think this is an okay way to talk to your partner, family, or friends. Get into therapy

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Nobody Vill's avatar

The old internet trope of arguing with a position someone doesn't hold is still alive n well I see. Lol

Nice to know I didn't miss anything

I don't think it's ok.

I just don't think being mean to somone during an argument gets to share the same term as raping beating and mentally torturing or manipulating...I think if you conflate the two you make people take the term less seriously...which is what happened to "depression" the terms now lost all potency from overuse.

I think it's bad for victims of abuse to risk watering down these terms.

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Ed's avatar

Hey, a lot of people in this thread are being dumb-assholes who aren't actually explaining what is wrong here. It is absolutely asshole behaviour to just call you an idiot when you clearly want a detailed explanation from someone who knows what they are talking about. So let me explain it for you; and as a preamble to that I'll tell you my credentials to make this explanation.

I am now in my early 20s and am in a good place up until quite recently, this was not the case... At the age of around 5-6 my mother found out that my father had been sexually abusing me and my siblings. we went through several years of court, horribly traumatic. During this time, my mother became part of a sort of cult. She became very devoted and made sure we were too. I believed until around 13, I then did not want to be a part of it. I got into numerous arguments with my mother, and eventually I made it clear I didn't believe in her beliefs. From there she became ever more controlling. As a boy growing up, around the age of 12 she made me bleach my facial hair because her "baby was growing up too fast." The fumes burned my eyes and I didn't want to do it. She didn't let me cut my hair and we were in an isolated location so I had nowhere to go. My mom was never overtly physically abusive, but she was one of the most manipulative people I have ever met in my life. I know exactly what verbal manipulation and abuse looks like. I was aware of her abusive tactics for at least 5 or more years before I was able to escape.

The behaviour Crowder displays here is extremely similar to what I experienced. Making love conditional, or trying to control how it is expressed. Isolating the victim so they are trapped. (Be serious, Crowder owns a multi-million dollar house, and makes millions per year but he only has 1 fucking car?) He expects his wife to do all these duties but also somehow not with the car? She is at the peak of her pregnancy, many people cannot even move, or get extremely tired in that state. But he expects her to walk the dogs, do all these chores, possibly expose their unborn children to harmful chemicals in the dog medication, while he sits there smoking a fucking cigar.

He is not being mean to her, he is being extremely threatening. He is the 'breadwinner' which is how he wants it to be in their relationship because he's a classic conservative. The problem is he expects, since he has all the money, he can simply order his wife around to do absolutely everything for him. Being mean or even an asshole would be making her do the dishes after she cooked him dinner in her state of pregnancy. At that point she really shouldn't be expected to do anything, her job is to keep her body in a state that is healthiest for the children. If that is what her job is, then by his own ideology, he should be protecting his wife and kids right? She could literally die if there were complications due to the pregnancy, she is clearly distressed here. Stress is one of the #1 things that can cause complications, he is being a massive piece of shit and possibly endangering his wife and unborn children's lives. He is causing her physical pain through stress caused by verbal abuse. It is much easier to be in pain from emotional turmoil when you're pregnant. He is literally harming her, not just being 'mean'. Even if this was a completely isolated incident (which I highly doubt it is), it is still abusive behaviour. Abuse does not necessarily need to be chronic, if I was a parent and I hit my child with a wrench, would that not be considered abuse? Would it not be indicative of other possible abuse? Some people may see it as discipline, but causing physical or mental harm to vurlnerable people is certainly abusive.

Obviously she is her own person and she can also do things for herself, but she should be ensuring that their unborn twins are kept safe at such a critical time. She is trying to do that, but being degraded by him, which is causing her stress, which is harmful to her health and her children's health. This is absolutely abusive behavior, it is manipulative behaviour. This is not being just 'mean' to someone.

This is not an example of conflating terms, sure, people may over exaggerate, but each case should always be taken seriously when someone claims abuse. In this case, there is literal video evidence of abusive behaviour. No matter which way you look at it, this is absolutely unnacceptable behaviour for a husband to exhibit to his wife. Especially when she is that pregnant.

I'm not calling you an idiot, or anything like that, I am telling you that you need to reevaluate how you define or percieve a situation like this. A 'short' video like this can absolutely display abusive behaviour, then it is up to whatever investigative forces to see if said abuse is chronic. In these kinds of cases it usually is, and based on other things in the article, I am inclined to believe it so. I will rescind that statement if further evidence says otherwise. I will however, not rescind my statement about this video showing abuse, it absolutely does.

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Chris's avatar

You know absolutely know about psychology and the various branches of it and it shows. You also think you're somehow better than everyone and no one should call out your stupidity.

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Drive's avatar

No one said it is ok.

He was a jerk.

It’s not abuse.

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ze's avatar

It is literally in the definition of abuse:

a·buse

verb

/əˈbyo͞oz/

to treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly.

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Drive's avatar

Neat, now look up semantic and pedantic.

or, you know… just look in the mirror.

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ze's avatar

My favorite part of your response is how you admitted you were wrong by failing to address my comment.

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Drive's avatar

Another pointless hyperbole.

Useless in every manner.

Do you feel better at least?

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Chris's avatar

How does his cock taste? Is he in a gay "phase" again?

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Your mom's avatar

Says BOWSER, a character that legit had no friends. Stay on the internet, friend

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Bull In The Heather's avatar

Did you just try and own someone in the comments by flexing with your knowledge of Super Mario Bros characters? That is hilarious

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Brittney Zarwel's avatar

Him being an asshole isn't what ppl are calling abuse. Its the tactics he was using to try & get her to do what he wanted that is abusive. I think you should prob look into what gaslighting looks like, what psychological abuse in a romantic relationship looks like. You're hesitant bc it was just a 3 min clip w no context but here's the thing... You don't need a ton of context to know that how he was treating her, the twisting of what she would say, turning things back to him, making her out to be the selfish one who doesn't care about him, not being "worthy", all of that is textbook emotional abuse within a romantic relationship. Steven clearly wants to control ppl around him & his wife was no exception. He is very calm in that clip, he's not shouting or shrieking, which is often more terrifying. You can tell she was trying to keep the peace & set her own boundary but he refused to see it & made it about himself & gasli the hell outta her.

It's abuse dude.. No question.

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ROY BATTY's avatar

I can promise anyone that if I told you in a parking lot that I would fuck you up, you would quickly call the Police right after pissing your pants. The internet tough guy smart ass thing only works in fantasy land. Act like that towards an actual man.

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Nobody Vill's avatar

I don't call the cops because someone I already know has never hit me and isn't violent says something in anger.

Normal people don't behave like that here...maybe it's an American thing your country does seem to be one giant mental illness factory

You just love drama. Everything has to be blown out of all proportion. Mass hysteria is More a national pastime than baseball.

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fdsafdasfdsa's avatar

Maybe you're just a fucking pussy

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Drive's avatar

Way to insult all women across the world by insinuating anyone weak has female genitals.

It’s so boring, people like you.

You are what you say you hate, always.

And, that actually makes sense.

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Blr's avatar

Lol little wimp who doesn't give a shit about women now worried about the word pussy. Ya'll all such divas LMAO

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Bull In The Heather's avatar

You are a pussy though lol

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Your mom's avatar

Maybe that's why your dad left you. Come to Texas if you think you are tougher

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That bitch's avatar

Dude you were one of the first people on here to comment and defend his behavior, so now tell me who wants to blow things out of proportion and be dramatic?

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FordAU6's avatar

"Internet tough guys would piss their pants if I threatened them in person" typed the guy acting tough on the internet.

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Drive's avatar

Who is apparently very bothered by verbal abuse lol.

Pot, meet kettle.

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Drive's avatar

This exact thing happened to me and nothing was done. Police laughed at me and never came.

This is not a crime.

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Bull In The Heather's avatar

"Police laughed at me"

Well of course they did child

"and never came"

Then they shared the fate of any of the women you roofied into sex

Just kidding! You've never had sex

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Drive's avatar

Neither of those things would happen, because I live in a constitutional carry state.

If you told me that, I’d politely ask you to keep your distance, but if you followed through on your threat, well…

That would be sad for all involved.

Perhaps it works the way you stated in your liberal utopia, but fortunately we all have the choice to not live in your, fantasy land, as you put it.

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Packera aurea's avatar

Oh look. Another scaredy-cat terrified of leaving his house without his security blanket. Trigger-happy people like you are a danger to society and need to stay home.

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LHH's avatar

Imagine not knowing the laws of the country you live in. In no state can you pull a weapon on someone that doesn’t have one themselves.

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Voice of Reason's avatar

That is NOT accurate, at all.

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Wendy Stuart's avatar

Threatening "I'll fuck you up" IS threatening physical violence. PERIOD. That the threat is aimed at a heavily pregnant woman makes it more egregious.

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Drive's avatar

Good luck in life.

You’ll need it.

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Your mom's avatar

Clearly, you are a woman. No duh

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Fox News satanic's avatar

Kill yourself

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Kjk's avatar

Hey now, there are plenty of decent men out there.

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iscah sciarra's avatar

It's a criminal threat, actually.

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Nobody Vill's avatar

Call the cops next time someone says they'll fuck you up but takes no actual action against you.

See how annoyed they get at you wasting police time

Have all of the USA become such wusses or is it just the youth??

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Johnny Dee's avatar

Fuck off Ryan.

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ze's avatar

It's interesting how your argument has evolved from "it's not abuse" to "everyone is a bunch of pussies because they see abuse as abuse"

Just admit you're a crowder fan and you're big sad that he's an abusive asshole. You'll come to terms with it quicker.

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Shilo's avatar

Hey get this, I live in fucking Texas and I have called the cops on an abusive and mentally ill family member after they went on a rampage destroying the house and literally while on the phone with the operator they were actively threatening to fuck me up if I didn't put the phone down. Guess what happened? Somebody got slapped with a class a misdemeanor and spent some time in jail. Wanna know where he is now? Oceans behavioral hospital.

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Charlotte Banks's avatar

26 years of unhealthy dynamics and *this* is your high point?

No one is jealous of that marriage my dude.

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Chris's avatar

Gen X is the generation that has fought the stupidity your families brought you up in. I feel sorry for your children

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ze's avatar

OK boomer

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Drive's avatar

A lot of truth here.

People are ruined.

They aren’t able to do anything well.

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MountainMatt's avatar

I think you're confusing empathy with sympathy. I hurt for those who've been wronged even if I haven't experienced that wrong firsthand. You're right, I'll never know what it's like to be a woman or to have my mother murdered by a monster. However, I did grow up in a home with a verbally/physically abusive man and had to defend my mother and sister from him. I have spoken up for female coworkers who've been treated poorly (at the expense of my own job); I've spoken at school board meetings, city council meetings and protests against the incursin of males into female sports and bathrooms. You know nothing about me yet cast aspersions upon my character. I hope you find the peace you're so desperately longing for. Good day.

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PattFenis's avatar

Bro we get it , you’re his bisexual lover

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Drive's avatar

Ahh, found the closeted homosexual hater who routinely uses derogatory comments against gays to make his points about how much better he is than “less moral” people

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PattFenis's avatar

More of shitting on the guy for loving Crowder so much. Crowder said it himself he’s bi. Sorry your brain is itty bitty

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Onynx's avatar

As a bisexual, just come out, dude.

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PattFenis's avatar

Who me? Lol tell that to crowder. He’s the one fighting the demons lmao .

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That bitch's avatar

It’s very much so abuse, and he was threatening her. Threatening people here in AMERICA can land you in all kinds of hot water, especially if they are your spouse. All of that falls under the umbrella of domestic abuse. If you’re going to come on here and cosplay as an American then maybe you should know what the fuck you’re talking about. I’m sorry you were very clearly terribly abused as a child, but YOU do not get to decide what abuse is or whether or not what he did is harmful, that’s not how this works. I guarantee most mental health professionals, social workers, cops are lawyers would most certainly see his behavior as domestic abuse. He doesn’t have to put hands on her to be an abusive piece of shit, he’s already accomplishing that by making unreasonable demands and telling her she’s not allowed to use the car. This is America, it’s a free country and being his wife she had just as many rights to that car as he did. It was a classic isolation technique he was using.

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Sarah's avatar

Men like you are the reason women end up staying in abusive marriages. You need to do better.

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BorkBorkBork's avatar

What is with all "there's no context" drivel here? There's plenty of context in this video. And it's basically impossible to remain objective when presented with video evidence of someone angrily insulting their pregnant wife (while smoking a cigar next to.....yeah, his -pregnant wife-) while also breaking her down and attempting to strip away her agency.

And yes. verbally threatening your spouse with physical violence ("I'll fuck you up") is illegal.

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HAL9000's avatar

Go tell a cop "I'll fuck you up" and see if they arrest you for threatening them.

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Dusty's avatar

What if "I'll fuck you up" meant just that? A good fuckin' rather than a brutal beating

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Fox News satanic's avatar

Are you serious?!? Holy shit

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Heidi's avatar

Actually it is. It is illegal to threaten serious bodily harm to another, even if she’s your wife who is about to go get you groceries without your permission, while seven months pregnant with your children.

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Jake's avatar

You're wrong. Read Chapter 22, Title Five of the Texas Penal Code.

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Smb's avatar

It’s called Verbal ABUSE and leads to all sorts of mental /emotional problems by those who receive it. His demeaning way of speaking to her, throwing accusations & not really allowing her to respond without interrupting her in an escalatory way causes her to just try to placate him until she gets into a safe place…She try’s to keep her responses short & non escalatory.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

Saying I'll fuck you up is assault. Fucking you up would be battery.

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PJ22's avatar

Thanks for putting your words to my thoughts. I am Livid with this 'less than a' man and will expose his egregerious behaviour to all friends and family!

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Ray's avatar

Where is the video of him saying he'd fuck her up? I missed it.

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Cat-Boi-69's avatar

So you didnt read the article?

He admitted to what he said. Read the article dude.

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Ray's avatar

The author of the article claims to have heard audio of Steven Crowder admitting he told his wife he'd fuck her up.

Sorry, but it's gonna take better evidence than that to convince me.

Seems like a rather important part of the story. If the video/audio actually existed - I'd expect it to be included in the article rather than simply being alluded to in the article - and annotated in the video.

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ze's avatar

It's fascinating how you won't believe a video, won't believe the article, but will believe anything that exculpates your abusive idol.

Consider that Steven would be able to sue Yashar for defamation if Yashar were manufacturing this information, and consider that he has not and will not.

Consider that you are doing mental gymnastics trying to justify abuse.

Consider what your mom would think of that.

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Brittney Zarwel's avatar

If the "I'll fuck You up" part happened after he followed her into the house then it stands to reason it wouldn't have been caught on the outdoor patio ring camera. If there isn't video footage of him saying it, but there's some kind of evidence (given to the author of the article by her family as I understand it) of him admitting to & acknowledging that he said it, then how do you expect there to be footage of it? We don't always get to have all the evidence in situations. That's why in court as a juror for instance you're told to use your experience, your common sense, critical thinking, & logic to look at the evidence you do have & come to a decision. No one is suggesting solely from this 3 min clip that Steven is all evil & HC is "innocent" of any wrong doing. We're looking at a several minutes long clip (longer than viral clips of Karens being accused of racism that are taken at face value) & we're saying "this encounter, how he spoke to her & how he demeaned & belittled & gaslit her are indicative of emotional abuse. In that moment no matter what HC said beforehand Steven was being abusive. And those aren't tactics someone just starts using randomly. Ppl who use the tactics Steven used are skilled at using them...as he was. He was calm. She was showing signs of panic. That tells me she has seen this behavior before & was trying to appease him. It tells me he doesn't like to be challenged & will manipulate those around him to get what he wants. So whether or not they're both abusive isn't really the issue in this clip. Maybe she's just as bad. But it doesn't excuse what he did or said.

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Andrew tonti's avatar

Get out now!!!! But prepare an escape plan with some close friends and family…. Try to set up your own bank account for survival needs. This creep will probably get vicious and vengeful so get an attorney for legal advice and defense. Stay off social media or block him , get friends to do the same. This guys fucked up

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Keterking's avatar

Most countries, if not all have laws against this. Tell me what do you mean by saying civilized countries?

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Keterking's avatar

What do you mean by saying civilized countries?

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Drive's avatar

Yea, the cops don’t arrest people for that.

It’s not really a crime.

I know this from 1st hand experience with cops. They specifically stated that a one time threat like that is not something that you can do anything about.

Directly from a lieutenant’s mouth.

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ze's avatar

They absolutely do arrest people for that, particularly in Texas.

I have personally pressed charges against someone who verbally threatened me in Texas.

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._penal_code_section_22.01:

Assault

A person commits an offense if the person:

intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person’s spouse; or

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bbox's avatar

And what happened to that person?

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Allan Toole's avatar

See Texas Penal Code Section 22.01(a)(2) and 22.01(b)(7)

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._penal_code_section_22.01

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